Jay Hughes and Leslie Dashew, drawing on their combined experience of more than 100 years, engage in a wide-ranging conversation. On the topic of trusts and control, Jay Hughes suggests that we are all living in “plays” and that it is not natural for human beings to live according to a “plan.”

They also discuss the role of elders, drawing on their own experiences as well as those of other cultures and civilizations, and explore the true meaning of wealth.

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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/under-the-aspen-tree/id6805151105

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